butterpaper - warning

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peter — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:04:22 +1100

Most hate to do this, but I carry the can here....

I have been warned to closely read some of the more recent threads for sentences that are within cooee of being defamatory, as defined in Oz. I can't deal with this without pissing off all and sundry, but will have to try, as it's butterpaper and not the writers that stand to get into expensive trouble.

You will see 5 edits in posts that in my view of the law's view, go a bit far. Most of the posts are in the Worst 10 buildings thread.

For future postings on this site, note the following:
- don't attack people personally and identify them

www.liv.asn.au/public/legalinfo/personalinjury/personalinjury-Defamati.html

www.pria.com.au/news/id/183

A sample from our fine laws, I think they must be pickin up some yank speak, post FTA:

It is defamatory
- If it injures your reputation by exposing you to hatred, contempt or ridicule.
- If it lowers you in the opinion of right-thinking society.

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hairdresser — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:10:47 +1100

if you ban any mention of the architect mXXXXXXt by his press agent the problem goes away?
........and it keeps the threads interesting?

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sod — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:41:07 +1100

peter - the boot thread doesn't bother you?

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peter — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:05:14 +1100

Maybe I haven't gotten there yet. Or else I didn't get it. Will have another look when I get a mo, sometime in 2009...

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collar — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:40:13 +1100

@ sod (2 posts up ^): Query re 'ipswich Princess' can be deleted if you think that helps.

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hairdresser — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:18:40 +1100

be a good idea to install a hippie/kook filter too.

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simon seasons — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:54:24 +1100

I note hairdresser, that your posts have attracted the moderators xxxx's. Keep your hair on.

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hairdresser — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:09:16 +1100

^
blowing kisses?

admin may not get the boot, sod might, collar worries about the boot, info doesn't, and the hairdresser thinks its all a shoe shop.

but

only you will wake up in the morning and put one on your foot.

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simon seasons — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:05:27 +1100

At least I know which foot it goes on.

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miles — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:45:33 +1100

high school playground? maybe summer heights has an opening for you mr seasons.

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hairdresser — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:48:56 +1100

@ merlin.
club foot?

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sod — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:17:35 +1100

collar - Query re 'ipswich Princess' can be deleted if you think that helps. wot??

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hairdresser — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:14:25 +1100

yeah - can see point of blowing kisses through posts that mention the golden ones.

but.........

has admin thought about blowing kisses at herr ss.
talking down to other posters is his special opening rap?
followed by publishing chapters of boring book!
any chance you could annihilate ss from the top 10 thread.
on second thoughts won't be as funny?.....

or
ignore button option - where is it?

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- I write something wrong with the sacrificing virgins comment?
sorry - read SS recipe for potions made from chest hairs in that link.
guess what your saying is he posts by his real name re above?

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info — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:29:46 +1100

@HD - SS might be ahead of his time. Or slowly exploding on an island somewhere - it happens you know. Its like cabin fever, only in reverse. In the process of losing one's mind - it is understood in many indigenous cultures that glimpses of the future can often be revealed in this time - one;s own voice becomes the only other heard. And repetition becomes the first sign of insanity.

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simon seasons — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:39:41 +1100

aghhhh,, gargle garegle spit. Oopps sorry guys that wasn't the first sounds of insanity. It was me enjoying the flavour of a fabulous new Chardonney from a friend of mine. We're trying out a new freezing method of fining. Time now for an award winning Merlot.

By the way. Repeating ones self is a sign of courtesy to the deaf.

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hairdresser — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:57:08 +1100

^
your saying your not a pagan - your a christian?

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peter — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:37:36 +1100

The deleted sacrificing virgins round the campfire comment wasn't defamatory, as we don't know who Simon is, but it was flaming. There might be forums out there happy to let things degenerate into abuse, but I don't reckon this should be one of them.

I know there are people reading this forum who are not contributing as they tell me they'll just get shot down for their efforts. That's a bit sad.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war

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hairdresser — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:09:06 +1100

seasons first post on the thread (top10).
contained the following directed at other contributors.

"your intent is only to make yourself known to another like minded wanker"

"you sanctimonious mob of wannabees"

it contained the instruction.

why don't jou just shut up here and go piss in one anothers pockets somewhere else.

I presume he was refering to the hairdresser, info, sod, miles, andrew and b-n - all posting

whose flaming?
c'mon admin.

looking at this forum its evident a few contributors probably want something done with him?

and thanks for restating my virgins round the campfire comment.
I'm happy about that.

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info — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:32:36 +1100

Well put HD.

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simon seasons — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:42:27 +1100

HD. go and read the date those comments were posted and then go an read the dates of your flame blitzkriegers on "good" artcitecture and just about anything else i have posted and you'll notice a consistentsy of abuse that doesn't belong to me. In fact all those comments are near repeats of things you wrote about me, you'll find them if you look hard enough.

If you can't recognise that you and your blitzkriegedrs have indulged your flaming habits repeatedly and predominately then indeed you are being sanctimonious and all the rest. You even right here above, declare yourself happy to have a flame repeated and confirmed by yourself. You also indulge in thought policing.

Yes my attacks might be formidible and discomforting but i can only think two occaisions where i have lost it and strayed from the topic and got personal and generally i have then apologised, at least i hope I have and if not, I do here now.

The point is I don't attack the person, I argue the proposition. You don't unless it corresponds exactly with what you think. Just about everything you have to say in response to people you don't agree with is either ridiclue or ridiculous and the intention is the same. To drive everyone but like minded pockets off your thread and off this forum if you can.

Go and read the wiki link and then consider perhaps that my religion has nothing to do with virgins or campfires or Gandalf. You call me a kook but if I knew your religion and called you a kook for it and slandered your faith, for example Catholicism, because of some freaks in wierded out fantasylands of the bible belt who may have nothing to do with Catholicism, you would rightly consider that to be flaming and defamatory. You are being defamatory if you knew my Identity. The fact that you don't doesn't liscense you to write what would otherwise be defamatory and is flaming.

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hairdresser — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:36:59 +1100

blitzkrieg?

be careful. I'm very jewish. and i'm not joking.

suggest you r paranoid.

u could revisit your interaction with an early thread i posted here over a year ago.
rational compliance with ESD ratings.
your repeated response = personally addressed put down then 16,000 words on glenn murcutt. TM method. boring.
I gave up abandoned the thread.
i see others adopt a similar strategy.

guess we could all do it again?

or we could look ^
"Yes my attacks might be formidable and discomforting."
??????????????
says it all really. duh?

re admin.
pretty clear the dudes intent on top 10 thread from ^.
i don't advocate any editing of him. he seems to have transformed into a humorous adjunct.
however - troubles re the glimmer twins touchy corrs finger wouldn't even be there if it were not for the kook. wouldn't be a subject for discussion amongst other posters far as i can tell?!

my guess - he is a hacker employed by phillip cox.
his purpose - to guarantee glenn murcutt is boring to the young -
seems to be working.

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simon seasons — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:31:09 +1100

Read wiki link peter posted above for 'blitzkrieg' reference.

Or don't read it, as usual. Just blur through it and then decide for yourself what was written and then pontificate with whaterver it was you reckon in the first instance.

'Debating' would be a good one for you to look up on wiki too actually, then you might also find out what attack means in a debating context. Suppose you'll trawl through that missquoting and mis-attributing as badly as you did with the pagan site.

Just hopeless!

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info — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:45:22 +1100

@HD - well put again. And while we're letting on personal stuff, my Korean heritage makes me invisible in Japan. And I am an atheist ...

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peter — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:36:18 +1100

... hmmm tricky self-imposed job I have given myself. I hadn't really thought to censor flaming, I don't like to censor anything if I can help it. But the tit for tat had been going on for a while and the campfire comment turned up the heat enough for me to dish out some of my xxxxx's. I don't want to go back through the last 1000 posts, I think we should just take things from here.

Advice appreciated of course - there isn't a CAE course in moderating forums... yet. I heard they are starting up a course for people to learn how to roll their R's so anything is possible.

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hairdresser — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:32:12 +1100

peter c .has one of our rAIA gold medal from a coupla years back i think.
seems suddenly pertinant on that thread.

sympathise finding origin- be worse than hangover going thru hagues internet book.

so
hagues page 1 wanker comments stand
but page 3 virgins round the campfire being broken on the freshly plowed paddocks no.
your saying keep the comments more bogan in tone admin - and its ok? (ha ha ha).
but it IS fair for the goose to be gandered?
if he shoots with intent.

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peter — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:46:26 +1100

No rules against bogan verse or pastoral poetry.

I don't mind what geese get up to in the privacy of their own habitat.

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simon seasons — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:16:17 +1100

Seasons Greetings

To all.

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youboreme — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:57:23 +1100

"I know there are people reading this forum who are not contributing as they tell me they'll just get shot down for their efforts. That's a bit sad."

Hear, hear! I read these forums fairly regularly and can't help but notice the same 5 or 6 posters constantly engaging in self-congratulatory back slapping and wanky architectural "in-jokes". The garbled gibberish that takes up most of the space on these forums is useless to everyone else, if not because of the lack of clarity in presenting their opinion then because of the lame grasp of English that these posters (posers?) seem to possess.

I wonder whether any of these people actually contribute anything meaningful to architecture in Australia, other than the vituperrious rantings and ramblings one must delve through in navigating these pages.

Circle-jerk indeed.

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peter — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:56:01 +1100

The following was received by email from an ex poster. It has been stripped of identifying information. I am unsure what to do.

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Just a quick heads up. Have loved butterpaper for years. You have done wonderful things. And all off you own bat!!! BRAVO.... I always, well at least check out the site once a week and I am a registered user. I have hesitated in writing to you about this, but the latest thread on the fires is well…….the last straw. I dont know what to suggest here, as I am at a loss for a solution. I have not made any comments etc and lurking alot recently. I appreciate that comments are necessary for a dynamic forum....but lately I have been appalled at the behaviour of a few users - the language and flaming that is occurring.... I have become too scared to comment: the tone of the forum has fallen to almost personal vendettas, and disgusting attacks on anything, anyone and everything that a number of users consider bad form. Any and nearly all comments are destroyed by this group of users. Pete, they have hijacked butterpaper forums. I am sorry that I can not offer you a solution on this, but I will not be commenting on butterpaper for the foresable future. I just don't have the nerve anymore to comment. Flames and discussion turn into personal attacks, not the normal open debate. Any comments on this, are inturn riduculed. I am sure you have moderators etc but I am for the moment I will be lurking. I will continue to check out the news, but I think I will give the forums a miss. I can no longer bear to read the diatribe of shit that is appearing through all the topics. This has been the subject of a number of conversations with archi mates over the last couple of months. I support your work, and wish it well, and if there is anything that I can do to help, (even if it is not providing a solution to this problem) please let me know.

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peter — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:07:49 +1100

I am not intending to ban people from the forum. They can always reregister under a different name so what is the point?

If lurkers are worried about the content, the only thing I can think of to rebalance it is to recommend that they start posting.

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hairdresser — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:35:08 +1100

"owners" should get over it.
get into it.
or go.

but
an option would be for the site admin to remove the post editing tool.
(the one the posters use). be interesting reading for the record.

i personally enjoy the lightning rod that romps around the site telling me and everyone else they are stoopid sick stylists. place wouldn't have any character if it weren't for him.

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simon seasons — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:58:50 +1100

When will you get it that your rather reviled HD. Your abusive and happy for it. That is repulsive and a lot of posters and readers are fed up with you.

You have no arguements. You just love abusing people and then blaming them for what you serve up to them. Right there above you call me a lightning rod for your attacks. You blame me for what you have to say. You are responsible for what you write. I don't ask you for that. I just posit my position and then hope for a good response. I don't think there is such a thing as a "stoopid sick stylist" I just have a position on architecture that it deserves a far more thorough and robust raison d'ert than mere style.

I was appalled that your answer to the question "what can we do for the fire victims" was to call for the closing of RMIT. WHAT! I might not think much of cyber design and some of the stuff that comes out of there but I know that many people love RMIT and that RMIT makes a fantastic cultural contribution. Above all I know that RMIT is made up of people who are as deeply concerned about the fire disaster as the rest of us. I think your comments are innapropriate. Seek counselling perhaps, or just drink more beer, but please stop imagining that your comments are intelligent and reasonable or wanted in these forums.

I know and acknowlege the place that style has but no matter how often I say that you continue to ignore it and go on with your blind attack!!! Just because I like to comment and have differing opinions doesn't mean I abuse people. I confess I have been robust and I don't suffer fools gladly, but I and quite a few others are just so sick of your in house archi jokes and blokey viturpetude. Frankly I can't see the point of you. I just can't see what you aim to achieve.

Why? HD why? Better still, please just go, you're really not wanted around here.

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cabbie — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:15:17 +1100

ss, now i can tell you really aren't an architect....

otherwise you'd have an understanding about architecture and narcissism...

i learnt this listening to these bastards while drivin them around the city all day....

but a mere thought...hmmm

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simon seasons — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:43:03 +1100

Cabbie I just though it might be worth a try. I was narcissistic imagining that it might happen, as i and a fair few others it seems would wish it.

Considering how often the same has been demanded of me, one would think, mmmm, borishness is obviously immutable.

By the bye. Why don't you take up truck driving if you hate your customers so much?

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Neville K — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:08:05 +1100

HD, SS, Cabbie et al

I love your biased commentaries. I get your gags and biases, I have been crit'd by Haig, winkled by lesser studio hacks and impressed by your generous excoriation. Long may you run, this passionate black banter.

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hairdresser — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:18:40 +1100

thanks nev. for tuning into the goon show.

its a dirty job trimming fred nile's nasal passages.

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simon seasons — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:52:46 +1100

HD, You really should stick to haircuts. At least I am working in the proffesion I presume to talk about

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Neville K — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:46:05 +1100

SS,
No monopoly on the truth comes from within the tent. Professionally speaking, use spell check.

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info — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:01:50 +1100

In terms of requests for contributors to bugger off - SS is winning by a long shot.
But I would be pretty disappointed if SS did bugger off to pagan land with his full deck of race cards - his contribution is as equally antiquated as others.
The big conversation for the last decade has been money - not architecture. Now that money has gone, and the once were's are now turning irrelevant we finally have a debate on our hands.
And Butterpaper is the only forum.
Snip, snip ...

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hairdresser — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:59:06 +1100

mr. youboreme - hague's tipping hard your stables taking out the mexican autumn carnival?

tubemaker, black box, sicilian crevate and debutant's fold been good nags.
....but you gotta wonder with the weight they're carrying this racing season.

- any jockey gossip info?

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w_y_e — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:58:16 +1100

Short of setting aside a special thread for those who wish to argue and name call ( I believe in software engineering they call it a 'sandbox'), might I just suggest, as was suggested to me, that if you think a poster is talking worthless rot, you simply reply to the post above that and ignore the one full of hatin' (they see me rollin'...).

I like aggressive and or obscure debate, but the personal stuff has gotten a bit old. If you really have to do the personal attacks, why not get in the spirit of things and do it with a nice 2D drawing, with nothing by line weights as your tools of expression?

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travis bickle — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:27:02 +1100

no letter to ed.

only dis-course.

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hairdresser — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:08:32 +1100

discourse is 4 inclusivists.

db8 = 2 (+) positions?

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simon seasons — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:59:32 +1100

Wye. You had the glasses didn't you? You're a gourmand at heart. Bravo!

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cabbie — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:39:03 +1100

@ travis

castro has more style

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travis bickle — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:38:16 +1100

db8 = roberta_flack on car cassette?

dv8? you do butt waxing also?

cab: he does. he had che as a trailing puppy.

did you get t.ito to autograph your crockee?

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cabbie — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:16:06 +1100

try here............

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hairdresser — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:40:02 +1100

^^

send em up the road to this bloke twavis.

lot of the creative classes like urself come in looking for the crack and sack.
i'm only a shoulder to cry on - kimmy's got answers for the full range of small bloke anxieties.

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travis bickle — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:05:56 +1100

hd:4 sounds bout right. not quite a militia. 1 more than a bolshy troika.

skinny latte on the road for me. kim is kinda cute.

like your work.

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travis bickle — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:09:30 +1100

this guy liked your work too.

trying to break into the asian market also?

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cabbie — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:58:29 +1100

still stuck at the airport rank travis ?

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hairdresser — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:51:45 +1100

^^^
St. Kilda gave triangles a bad name.

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info — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:18:07 +1100

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info — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:22:12 +1100

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info — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:24:20 +1100

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info — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:35:26 +1100

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hairdresser — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:43:32 +1100

flowers or weeds info.

hot house organisms springing up in the furthest corners of a cultivated garden would indicate the latter?

r u suggesting uncontrolled burning or selective blowtorching.

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hairdresser — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:15:06 +1000

http://www.butterpaper.com/vanilla/comments.php?DiscussionID=1501&page=1#Item_13

4 sure I'd b talking 2 a lawyah re the person mascararaiding as macca 4 the slanderous tiredraid posted up.
lucky i m a non de plume.

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luke — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:24:02 +1000

I reckon you might still get a call from the legal arm of the trustees of Lewis Carroll's estate Peter.

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hairdresser — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:03:59 +1000

L C stole T + T from some other poet mate?

wots macca got against cocks and carmichael is the question. all peoples think they r a great old marxican office.

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peter — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:20 +1000

I have deleted two threads, the later one one being a continuation of the earlier one (though ampped up).

Negative criticism is OK. Hurling mud is not.

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hairdresser — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:40:22 +1000

doubt it was real macca.........? had 2 b a hoax 2 write that shite?

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luke — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:20:13 +1000

Think your right HD, the magazine known as (xxxxx) is respectable.

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hairdresser — Sun, 09 May 2010 11:31:07 +1000

^^^ very true PJ.

gossip says 1 of arsetrailyahs not so leading magazines is getting a clean out.

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luke — Sun, 09 May 2010 13:10:55 +1000

Not before time.

.........but whats this about architecture is opinion.

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peter — Sun, 09 May 2010 13:18:54 +1000

Had a request for a architectural q'n'a forum a year ago which I agreed to - finally got round to doing it and moved some posts over to it.
That meant that 'architecture' forum name was now too broad. Haven't settled on anything yet...

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hairdresser — Sun, 09 May 2010 13:30:16 +1000

PJ = tony johns of architecture?

could b good -loved the way he treated Penny W with contempt the other night - kept the smile on his face and the tone of his voice po lite. u get the feeling Krudd has fcuked up big time?

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peter — Sun, 09 May 2010 13:57:12 +1000

haha

It was good. Though I still want to know what pink-shirted guy's question was - Tony said he would come back to him.

ABC kinda pinched a generic term - can't think of summat short and sweet - will start a thread - winner gets TimTams.

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hairdresser — Sun, 09 May 2010 14:34:56 +1000

pink shirt was the wong stooge 4 a comp lick ated krudd scripted q + fluffed it?
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nice idea. ^ country needs a bit of Q + A when it comes to architecture.

salon gossip says moanumeants been feeding some ferrets they keep in a cage out the back.

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peter — Wed, 12 May 2010 23:49:46 +1000

Luke, you seem to have single-handedly turned this into a forum where every thread has the same name! And your almost every post is about the same thing... the Victorian government architect's office! It used to be cloaked and I didn't figure out the riddles, but now its right there on the cover.

I'm dead sick of this harping on, consider this a warning before you lose your account. Yes, booted. And HD, despite some beauties, you're close behind.

The warnings are forgotten, you continue with the bile. You're defecating on my vege patch and I'm over cleaning up after you.

I am going to have to go in there again with the [xxxx] pooper scooper soon, not a task I like to spend 'free' time on.

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peter — Wed, 12 May 2010 23:55:28 +1000

?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f22b43eb5a/meh-from-tubulargoldmine?rel=player

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hairdresser — Thu, 13 May 2010 01:18:41 +1000

^^ fair go - my comic horror stories have a broad cast of characters + general themes!

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luke — Thu, 13 May 2010 21:04:02 +1000

^^ ok P
sounds like you're being leaned on too - let me guess?
but you do need to thank me for leaving such a healthy amount of manure on your vege patch
the banana section has turned nuts ... mission accomplished

ERASE ME NOW.

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peter — Fri, 14 May 2010 02:51:48 +1000

No I'm not being leaned on. Yes there's a lot of manure - whether that is healthy we'll just have to see.

http://www.ziegel.at/gbc-ziegelhandbuch/eng/umwelt/wirkkatnp.htm

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info — Thu, 20 May 2010 20:50:50 +1000

^ By your own admission, you removed Mr McKenzie's Proposition thread due to his direct claims upon you. Understandable, but a pity, it was probably the first genuine debate to surface in Melbourne for a while.

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greenhaus — Fri, 21 May 2010 08:25:02 +1000

Ya, Some of architekts know ideas competitions is bad for them.
Herr McKenzie for Architekture Review was being the case for good.
Time and skill wasting is bad for ESD ok.

http://www.modative.com/modern-architects-blog/bid/31683/Why-Open-Architecture-Competitions-Are-Bad-for-Architects

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peter — Sat, 22 May 2010 17:26:27 +1000

^^ The warning above related to continuing posts about the govarch, not Proposition. And it was just a warning. HD & Luke both sent me requests to be switched off, so I did so.

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cabbie — Sun, 23 May 2010 00:46:36 +1000

pete,

set it to automatic

its gotta be better than listening to those two.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-case-for-critiquing-the-critics-20100521-w0md.html

[URL fixed- mod]

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peter — Sun, 23 May 2010 01:27:26 +1000

Trouble is I have to set what is 'automatic'. There's always a human in there somewheres... unless it's twitter, which may well be where they migrate.

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peter — Sun, 23 May 2010 01:32:59 +1000

^^^ Not a bad post that. Read it off the twitter feed a few days back.

I agree with most of it, but do think comps are useful for profile-building (if you DIY PR), and for nutting out how to approach these sorts of jobs as an office before you actually land one in the real world. Training wheels.

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info — Sun, 23 May 2010 18:08:52 +1000

^^^^ - Why are you sensitive about the Victorian Government Architect's office? Despite the whining there was some very clear interogation of its legitimacy - none of which has been resolved.
Irrespective of who asked - you still agreed to pull the plug on two bloggers. A moderator not being leaned on would have said 'no' - and told them to both simply stop posting if they felt so inclined.

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peter — Mon, 24 May 2010 01:12:43 +1000

I was annoyed that there were repetitive threads emerging - several with almost the same name and about the same thing. None seemed to get any closer to the point of what is wrong with the govarch's office, they were beating about the bush and seemed more and more intended to just ridicule the govarch personally - which is out of bounds. I think it was OK to say 'oi'.

The posts are still alive, so can be responded to and continued.

I pulled the plug because I was firmly asked to by both account holders. Should they wish to turn the accounts back on, they can just ask and it will be done.

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info — Thu, 27 May 2010 20:41:08 +1000

The ongoing failures of the Vic Govt Office seem clearly detailed - it would be incorrect to
re-contextualise those threads as a personal attack.

The actions surrounding the supression of the Proposition thread were both dissappointing and revealing.
Perhaps it would be wiser to omit the comment options for future Notices?

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peter — Sun, 30 May 2010 03:39:38 +1000

^ I'll leave the first - we're obviously reading the text differently.

On the second, sorry you were disappointed. There isn't much to reveal though. The thread was getting picked up at #2 by google. I was informed of their concern about its effect on the competition - which I thought was fair enough. I tried to address this by blocking google from the thread but that didn't work, so I took the action that I did. They never requested the deletion.

Take your point on the last - that is the way I mean to do it. It defaults to comments on, and I forget sometimes.

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greenhaus — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 09:37:27 +1000

^^^ "Oi" - ?

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peter — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 16:42:52 +1000

^ Not a euro punk "Oi!", more an Aussie way of saying "Hey, WTF"
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418012019AAj8uCW

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greenhaus — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:19:00 +1000

You are mistaken? I see Olympics. It is stolen football chant, not pretty, not WTF.

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Holland and Germany say WTF for looking at this?

http://www.australiandesignreview.com/projects/16604-MONA-Pavilions-Fender-Katsalidis-in-association-with-Antarctica-Group

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peter — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:23:44 +1000

I will try to be more considerate to non strine speakers from now on.

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Glad MONA pavilions are stimulating such a response from the deutsch & dutch nations, at such a distance. Got to love the interweb.

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info — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:22:32 +1000